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	<title>Comments on: When would Adam die if he ate the forbidden fruit?</title>
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	<description>Does the Bible contain contradictions or errors? Biblical inerrancy examined.</description>
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		<title>By: WisdomLover</title>
		<link>http://www.errancy.com/when-would-adam-die-if-he-ate-the-forbidden-fruit/comment-page-1/#comment-634</link>
		<dc:creator>WisdomLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Adam was NOT expelled from the garden as punishment...He was expelled to be prevented from eating from the tree of life...it wasn’t his “sin” which condemned him to death after all; if he could have eaten from the tree of life, he wouldn’t have died&quot;

If A causes B, B causes C, and C causes D, then A causes D right? 

Adam&#039;s sin caused his expulsion. His expulsion caused him to stop eating from the tree of life (because he lost access). His not eating from the tree of life anymore caused him to die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Adam was NOT expelled from the garden as punishment&#8230;He was expelled to be prevented from eating from the tree of life&#8230;it wasn’t his “sin” which condemned him to death after all; if he could have eaten from the tree of life, he wouldn’t have died&#8221;</p>
<p>If A causes B, B causes C, and C causes D, then A causes D right? </p>
<p>Adam&#8217;s sin caused his expulsion. His expulsion caused him to stop eating from the tree of life (because he lost access). His not eating from the tree of life anymore caused him to die.</p>
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		<title>By: Dragonsaver</title>
		<link>http://www.errancy.com/when-would-adam-die-if-he-ate-the-forbidden-fruit/comment-page-1/#comment-632</link>
		<dc:creator>Dragonsaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really doesn&#039;t matter when Adam was supposed to die, since an important point is being missed. According to Genesis, Adam was NOT expelled from the garden as punishment for eating from the tree of knowledge. He was expelled to be prevented from eating from the tree of life and living forever (3:22-23), making the time of his death of no consequence since it wasn&#039;t his &quot;sin&quot; which condemned him to death after all; if he could have eaten from the tree of life, he wouldn&#039;t have died.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really doesn&#8217;t matter when Adam was supposed to die, since an important point is being missed. According to Genesis, Adam was NOT expelled from the garden as punishment for eating from the tree of knowledge. He was expelled to be prevented from eating from the tree of life and living forever (3:22-23), making the time of his death of no consequence since it wasn&#8217;t his &#8220;sin&#8221; which condemned him to death after all; if he could have eaten from the tree of life, he wouldn&#8217;t have died.</p>
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		<title>By: WisdomLover</title>
		<link>http://www.errancy.com/when-would-adam-die-if-he-ate-the-forbidden-fruit/comment-page-1/#comment-110</link>
		<dc:creator>WisdomLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading the Old Testament through New Testament eyes, the idea that Adam suffered spiritual death the day that he ate the forbidden fruit seems to be the best interpretation of the passage.

But it is also worth noting that the word &quot;die&quot; here is in a continuous, rather than a perfect tense. One way to interpret this is that the death being predicted is a process, not a completed event. As such, one might view the passage as predicting that the process of Adam&#039;s death will begin when he eats the fruit, not that that process will come to completion when he eats the fruit. This ties in with the second inerrantist response above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading the Old Testament through New Testament eyes, the idea that Adam suffered spiritual death the day that he ate the forbidden fruit seems to be the best interpretation of the passage.</p>
<p>But it is also worth noting that the word &#8220;die&#8221; here is in a continuous, rather than a perfect tense. One way to interpret this is that the death being predicted is a process, not a completed event. As such, one might view the passage as predicting that the process of Adam&#8217;s death will begin when he eats the fruit, not that that process will come to completion when he eats the fruit. This ties in with the second inerrantist response above.</p>
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		<title>By: Errancy</title>
		<link>http://www.errancy.com/when-would-adam-die-if-he-ate-the-forbidden-fruit/comment-page-1/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Errancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The concern that I have with the metaphorical (i.e. spiritual) interpretation of &quot;in the day that you eat of it you shall die&quot; is that I don&#039;t see any indication in the text that this is intended metaphorically. It looks like a pretty straightforward statement of fact.

Your point that we should be less ready to say that a single author contradicts himself than we are to say that two different authors contradict each other is a fair one, though. That does make me more ready to apply the principle of charity to the text.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concern that I have with the metaphorical (i.e. spiritual) interpretation of &#8220;in the day that you eat of it you shall die&#8221; is that I don&#8217;t see any indication in the text that this is intended metaphorically. It looks like a pretty straightforward statement of fact.</p>
<p>Your point that we should be less ready to say that a single author contradicts himself than we are to say that two different authors contradict each other is a fair one, though. That does make me more ready to apply the principle of charity to the text.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a poor argument.  The interpretation I favor is that Adam died spiritually.  

But the primary reason I think this argument isn&#039;t due to the strength of any reconciliation, but because the possibility of a mistake doesn&#039;t make any sense.  Matthew contradicting Luke makes sense.  J contradicting P makes sense.  J contradicting J doesn&#039;t.  Even if Genesis is a work of man, this isn&#039;t the kind of human error to be expected.

The observation of how wrong a literal interpretation can be is a relevant observation, but this alone does not counter inerrancy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a poor argument.  The interpretation I favor is that Adam died spiritually.  </p>
<p>But the primary reason I think this argument isn&#8217;t due to the strength of any reconciliation, but because the possibility of a mistake doesn&#8217;t make any sense.  Matthew contradicting Luke makes sense.  J contradicting P makes sense.  J contradicting J doesn&#8217;t.  Even if Genesis is a work of man, this isn&#8217;t the kind of human error to be expected.</p>
<p>The observation of how wrong a literal interpretation can be is a relevant observation, but this alone does not counter inerrancy.</p>
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		<title>By: Errancy</title>
		<link>http://www.errancy.com/when-would-adam-die-if-he-ate-the-forbidden-fruit/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Errancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The key word in 2 Peter 3:8 is &quot;like&quot;; this verse doesn&#039;t tell us that a thousand years to humanity is a day to the Lord, but that a thousand years to humanity is &lt;em&gt;like&lt;/em&gt; a day to the Lord. It&#039;s all about perspective, saying not that time actually passes differently for us and for God, but that it seems to pass differently, that we and God see time differently.

This doesn&#039;t support the idea that to God Adam died on the same day that he ate the forbidden fruit. At most, it supports the idea that to God it was like Adam died that day. That isn&#039;t enough for us to say that God&#039;s warning was true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The key word in 2 Peter 3:8 is &#8220;like&#8221;; this verse doesn&#8217;t tell us that a thousand years to humanity is a day to the Lord, but that a thousand years to humanity is <em>like</em> a day to the Lord. It&#8217;s all about perspective, saying not that time actually passes differently for us and for God, but that it seems to pass differently, that we and God see time differently.</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t support the idea that to God Adam died on the same day that he ate the forbidden fruit. At most, it supports the idea that to God it was like Adam died that day. That isn&#8217;t enough for us to say that God&#8217;s warning was true.</p>
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