Comments on: Did the women who found Jesus’ tomb empty go and tell the disciples?

By: WisdomLover

WisdomLover — Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:53:07 +0000

“The chief difficulty is in the fact that Matthew, for example, does not tell us the Mary is no longer with the women, having run off immediately as John reports.”

John reports:

1. Mary left the tomb to fetch Peter and John.
2. Returned with Peter and John.
3. Lingered at the tomb and saw two angels and Jesus Himself.
4. Announced what she saw to the other disciples.

Nothing in John says or suggests that Mary was not re-united with the other Holy Women between events 3 and 4. John says nothing at all about how much time passed between Mary’s seeing Jesus and her report to the disciples. For all that John says, days might have passed. (FTR, I don’t think that it was days.) During that interval, Mary could easily have been reunited with the other Holy Women.

The only immediate running off that John reports is that Mary ran off immediately to Peter and John when she found the tomb open and empty before dawn. But John reports that she returned to the tomb after that. Still well in advance of the other Holy Women, who arrived at or after dawn.

By: 37818

37818 — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:01:10 +0000

A number of the women did run to tell the disciples. The chief difficulty is in the fact that Matthew,for example, does not tell us the Mary is no longer with the women, having ran off immediately as John reports.

By: dysfunctional

dysfunctional — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:58:35 +0000

Mark and Matthew record the same group (subset) of women, and should be taken together. They were overjoyed and amazed; and hurried to the upper room to tell the disciples. However, it was dawn, and people were filling the streets as the day began. Some of these same people had shouted “crucify him!” just a few days earlier.

Mark 16:7-8 refers to their fear of those they passed on the way to share the good news.

By: burt hackett

burt hackett — Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:35:35 +0000

The story of the resurrection is the most mix-up
and unlikely part of the new testament.

The 4 botched tales can not be strightened out, each writer heard a different tale, 50 to 100 years later in koine greek from some one who also heard it from some one else.

Probably badly garbled when translated from aramaic,
We are not even sure the man Jesus lived, the resurrection story is probably all bunk and rates up there with Jonah and Noah.

By: WisdomLover

WisdomLover — Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:08:29 +0000

“John has MM meet Jesus on her 2nd trip to the tomb, whereas Matthew is clearly describing the 1st (and only) trip.”

Of the extant topics here, the one about the timing of their arrival at the tomb seems the most germane to this issue.

It seems to me that John is exclusively describing events that occur before sunrise.

The other Gospel writers are describing events after the arrival of all the rest of the Holy Women. Those events occur at or after sunrise.

So, I think you’ve got Magdalene’s trips ordered backwards Amtiskaw. The texts, taken together, read as though Mary arrived early, left to fetch Peter and John, returned and waited for the other Holy Women.

By: WisdomLover

WisdomLover — Thu, 08 Apr 2010 04:01:59 +0000

The Holy Women did not tell anyone about the angels (at least not right away), but they did pass the message on to the disciples.

By: Amtiskaw

Amtiskaw — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:48:03 +0000

If you want the strongest contradiction in this whole story, I believe it’s between John, who has MM go to the tomb alone and meet nobody, and Matthew, who has MM go to the tomb with the other Mary and meet both an angel and Jesus. John has MM meet Jesus on her 2nd trip to the tomb, whereas Matthew is clearly describing the 1st (and only) trip.