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		<title>Comment on Will God feed and clothe those who strive for his kingdom? by edoctor</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 06:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Romans 5:1-5 we read about some of the benefits of suffering.  

&quot;Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God. Not only so, but we also glory in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us.&quot;

The point Jesus was making in Matthew 6 is that worrying about food or clothing equals not trusting God.  God wants us to trust Him with our whole heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Romans 5:1-5 we read about some of the benefits of suffering.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God. Not only so, but we also glory in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us.&#8221;</p>
<p>The point Jesus was making in Matthew 6 is that worrying about food or clothing equals not trusting God.  God wants us to trust Him with our whole heart.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On how many donkeys did Jesus ride into Jerusalem? by edoctor</title>
		<link>http://www.errancy.com/on-how-many-donkeys-did-jesus-ride-into-jerusalem/comment-page-4/#comment-875</link>
		<dc:creator>edoctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 06:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One technique law enforcement and courts use to determine whether witnesses have colluded is to compare their testimonies.  Identical testimonies are an indication of collusion.  This technique is described in at least one of Lee Stroebel&#039;s books/videos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One technique law enforcement and courts use to determine whether witnesses have colluded is to compare their testimonies.  Identical testimonies are an indication of collusion.  This technique is described in at least one of Lee Stroebel&#8217;s books/videos.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Did Jesus abolish the law? by Leon B. Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon B. Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 02:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This can be a somewhat confusing issue, especially for many who are taught to believe certain things in a certain manner.  I will try to explain it simply, but forgive me if I do not do the explanation justification.  Here goes.

Eph 2:15 is not dealing with SALVATION.  Paul has already dealt with that issue earlier on in chapter 2. Eph 2:8;9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Now take note of what he says in verse 10.
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. 

Thus the The Law, Commandments etc. before ordained in the Old Testament (Torah) have not been abolished.  There are simply not the means by which ones attains salvation.  Turning from breaking God&#039;s Laws and Commandments to keeping them SHOULD be the result of one who has attained salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.  This perfectly corresponds to Romans 3:31.

What Paul is talking about from Eph 2:10-19, is the act of RECONCILIATION.  In essence what Paul is saying is a gentile no longer has to go through the full conversion process including circumcision etc. (and trust me there was then and is today a lot more to it) to be reconciled to God, and have communal fellowship with Jewish believers.  He/she does not have to go through the legal process of full conversion which was a type of wall (symbolically and actually) for converts.  There was even a wall in the outer court of the temple in Jerusalem which kept uncircumcised gentiles, who wanted to partake of temple activities, separate from Jews and Gentiles that had gone through the full conversion process to be accepted into Judaism.

Going beyond that wall for an uncirmcised non-converted gentile was a death sentence, enforced by the Romans themselves even against a Roman citizen.  In 1871 an excavation found one of the stones of this outer wall with the inscription on it written in Greek, &quot;NO FOREIGNER IS TO GO BEYOND THE BALUSTRADE AND THE PLAZA OF THE TEMPLE ZONE WHOEVER IS CAUGHT DOING SO WILL HAVE HIMSELF TO BLAME FOR HIS DEATH WHICH WILL FOLLOW&quot; Josephus says it was also written in latin.

The first non-Jews to hear the gospel and believe were given the same gift (Acts 10:46)as the apostles received in the upper room on the day of Shavuot (Pentecost)Acts 2:1-4.  Peter along with James and the Jerusalem Council (Acts 15:13-21), determined that this was a sign from God that gentiles were now to be welcomed into the community (commonwealth)of Israel, without first having to go through a legalistic and often lengthy conversion process as was required prior to the death of the Christ Jesus (The Anointed One, God&#039;s Salvation).  Gentiles who heard and believed the Gospel, should now be welcomed as fellow citizens in the Kingdom of God, after which the Holy Spirit would guide them how to walk (Eph. 2:10)as befitting those who love and worship the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.

There is no contradiction if one follows the whole teaching of St. Paul in Ephesians chapter 2, keeping the context of WHAT he uses the term &quot;prescriptions&quot; (works or LAW contained in commandments) in relation to, in verses 10 (and Romans 3:31) and 15.  In the first instance he is using it as to how it applies to a believer after he/she obtains SALVATION through GRACE, while in the latter case St. Paul is using it relative to Gentile obligatory requirements for fellowship into the community of God.  Prior to Christ&#039;s death and resurrection, Gentile acceptance by the Jewish community (see Acts 10:28) was connected to a legal conversion process of adoption into Israel.  The translators actually did a very good job in their chapter division of Ephesians 2, as they do through most of the Bible.  Paul&#039;s letters are hard to understand as even St. Peter acknowledges (2Peter 3:16). Yet there is no contradiction, when one rightly understand how to rightly divide the word of truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This can be a somewhat confusing issue, especially for many who are taught to believe certain things in a certain manner.  I will try to explain it simply, but forgive me if I do not do the explanation justification.  Here goes.</p>
<p>Eph 2:15 is not dealing with SALVATION.  Paul has already dealt with that issue earlier on in chapter 2. Eph 2:8;9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.</p>
<p>Now take note of what he says in verse 10.<br />
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. </p>
<p>Thus the The Law, Commandments etc. before ordained in the Old Testament (Torah) have not been abolished.  There are simply not the means by which ones attains salvation.  Turning from breaking God&#8217;s Laws and Commandments to keeping them SHOULD be the result of one who has attained salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.  This perfectly corresponds to Romans 3:31.</p>
<p>What Paul is talking about from Eph 2:10-19, is the act of RECONCILIATION.  In essence what Paul is saying is a gentile no longer has to go through the full conversion process including circumcision etc. (and trust me there was then and is today a lot more to it) to be reconciled to God, and have communal fellowship with Jewish believers.  He/she does not have to go through the legal process of full conversion which was a type of wall (symbolically and actually) for converts.  There was even a wall in the outer court of the temple in Jerusalem which kept uncircumcised gentiles, who wanted to partake of temple activities, separate from Jews and Gentiles that had gone through the full conversion process to be accepted into Judaism.</p>
<p>Going beyond that wall for an uncirmcised non-converted gentile was a death sentence, enforced by the Romans themselves even against a Roman citizen.  In 1871 an excavation found one of the stones of this outer wall with the inscription on it written in Greek, &#8220;NO FOREIGNER IS TO GO BEYOND THE BALUSTRADE AND THE PLAZA OF THE TEMPLE ZONE WHOEVER IS CAUGHT DOING SO WILL HAVE HIMSELF TO BLAME FOR HIS DEATH WHICH WILL FOLLOW&#8221; Josephus says it was also written in latin.</p>
<p>The first non-Jews to hear the gospel and believe were given the same gift (Acts 10:46)as the apostles received in the upper room on the day of Shavuot (Pentecost)Acts 2:1-4.  Peter along with James and the Jerusalem Council (Acts 15:13-21), determined that this was a sign from God that gentiles were now to be welcomed into the community (commonwealth)of Israel, without first having to go through a legalistic and often lengthy conversion process as was required prior to the death of the Christ Jesus (The Anointed One, God&#8217;s Salvation).  Gentiles who heard and believed the Gospel, should now be welcomed as fellow citizens in the Kingdom of God, after which the Holy Spirit would guide them how to walk (Eph. 2:10)as befitting those who love and worship the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.</p>
<p>There is no contradiction if one follows the whole teaching of St. Paul in Ephesians chapter 2, keeping the context of WHAT he uses the term &#8220;prescriptions&#8221; (works or LAW contained in commandments) in relation to, in verses 10 (and Romans 3:31) and 15.  In the first instance he is using it as to how it applies to a believer after he/she obtains SALVATION through GRACE, while in the latter case St. Paul is using it relative to Gentile obligatory requirements for fellowship into the community of God.  Prior to Christ&#8217;s death and resurrection, Gentile acceptance by the Jewish community (see Acts 10:28) was connected to a legal conversion process of adoption into Israel.  The translators actually did a very good job in their chapter division of Ephesians 2, as they do through most of the Bible.  Paul&#8217;s letters are hard to understand as even St. Peter acknowledges (2Peter 3:16). Yet there is no contradiction, when one rightly understand how to rightly divide the word of truth.</p>
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		<title>Comment on For how much did David buy the land for the altar? by learning</title>
		<link>http://www.errancy.com/for-how-much-did-david-buy-the-land-for-the-altar/comment-page-2/#comment-857</link>
		<dc:creator>learning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 11:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...I would like to add to my last comment that this would tend to place Ornan/Arauhah at the level of a de-facto &quot;priest.&quot; Since his site was the boundary of where the Angel of Death stopped, and he saw the Angel also, and he offered his site for free, and he suggested the first two offerings with his possessions, I think this may be a fair interpretation, as he is portrayed in a righteous, even priestly, manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;I would like to add to my last comment that this would tend to place Ornan/Arauhah at the level of a de-facto &#8220;priest.&#8221; Since his site was the boundary of where the Angel of Death stopped, and he saw the Angel also, and he offered his site for free, and he suggested the first two offerings with his possessions, I think this may be a fair interpretation, as he is portrayed in a righteous, even priestly, manner.</p>
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		<title>Comment on For how much did David buy the land for the altar? by learning</title>
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		<dc:creator>learning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 11:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David had sinned greatly. Tens of thousands had died because of his sin. Further, this event occurs under supernatural circumstances in which angels, the Lord, and Satan are participants, and sets the stage for the building of the Temple. In short, this was a HUGE event. He paid 50 shekels of silver, and the idea of offerings of grain and bulls are mentioned by Ornan/Arauhah; I believe the gold was also paid by David as another type(s) of freewill or love offering or as a sin offering; as such, it cannot be part of the price, or it would not be a &quot;freewill&quot; offering. His extravagance was in proportion to his repentence, which was great, being a man after His own heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David had sinned greatly. Tens of thousands had died because of his sin. Further, this event occurs under supernatural circumstances in which angels, the Lord, and Satan are participants, and sets the stage for the building of the Temple. In short, this was a HUGE event. He paid 50 shekels of silver, and the idea of offerings of grain and bulls are mentioned by Ornan/Arauhah; I believe the gold was also paid by David as another type(s) of freewill or love offering or as a sin offering; as such, it cannot be part of the price, or it would not be a &#8220;freewill&#8221; offering. His extravagance was in proportion to his repentence, which was great, being a man after His own heart.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who wrote the Ten Commandments onto the second set of tablets? by Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.errancy.com/who-wrote-the-ten-commandments/comment-page-2/#comment-850</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just came upon this site this evening, and this supposed contradiction as to who wrote the Ten Commandments. 

Reading carefully the whole context, we see that God has been giving Moses a whole series of instructions, in addition to the ten laws, including those in the verses that immediately precede Ex. 34:27. These are among the many words, which God refers to here, that He asks Moses to write, in a book, the book of the covenant (Ex. 24:4, 7). That&#039;s just a start. I recommend that you take it much further, with some good Bible study helps. Let me just add that it&#039;s vital to study all the related scriptures on a given topic before you come to a conclusion as to what a difficult verse means.

The Bible in its original language is inerrant. This is what the Bible claims, directly and indirectly, over and over again. If it is not the inspired word of our Maker, which it claims to be, in no uncertain terms, over and over, then we might as well throw it away. Its Author challenges us unequivocally to prove Him, to put to the test His promises, and the authenticity of His Authorship of the Bible. 

By the way, anyone, especially a so-called theologian, who claims that the Bible does not claim what I have just said it does claim, simply does not know what he is talking about. Always keep in mind the astonishment of the &quot;theologians&quot; in Jesus&#039; day who were astonished at the knowledge of His disciples whom they took as &quot;unlearned and ignorant men&quot; (Acts 4:13, KJV) 

Over time, with His help, I have found that the list of so-called errors just keeps dwindling away. Not that we can expect to answer every last one of them in this life. However, as you persevere in prayerful study of His Instruction Book, the right, clear, beautifully sound, and inspiring answers will mount up higher and higher, and you&#039;ll find the evidence overwhelming that indeed the Bible was &quot;God-breathed&quot; (2 Tim. 3:15-17), and be confident that your Maker didn&#039;t contradict Himself anywhere when He set about preserving His message for you and me, and all mankind.

Just wait on Him, for, as the old saying goes, you ain&#039;t seen nothin&#039; yet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just came upon this site this evening, and this supposed contradiction as to who wrote the Ten Commandments. </p>
<p>Reading carefully the whole context, we see that God has been giving Moses a whole series of instructions, in addition to the ten laws, including those in the verses that immediately precede Ex. 34:27. These are among the many words, which God refers to here, that He asks Moses to write, in a book, the book of the covenant (Ex. 24:4, 7). That&#8217;s just a start. I recommend that you take it much further, with some good Bible study helps. Let me just add that it&#8217;s vital to study all the related scriptures on a given topic before you come to a conclusion as to what a difficult verse means.</p>
<p>The Bible in its original language is inerrant. This is what the Bible claims, directly and indirectly, over and over again. If it is not the inspired word of our Maker, which it claims to be, in no uncertain terms, over and over, then we might as well throw it away. Its Author challenges us unequivocally to prove Him, to put to the test His promises, and the authenticity of His Authorship of the Bible. </p>
<p>By the way, anyone, especially a so-called theologian, who claims that the Bible does not claim what I have just said it does claim, simply does not know what he is talking about. Always keep in mind the astonishment of the &#8220;theologians&#8221; in Jesus&#8217; day who were astonished at the knowledge of His disciples whom they took as &#8220;unlearned and ignorant men&#8221; (Acts 4:13, KJV) </p>
<p>Over time, with His help, I have found that the list of so-called errors just keeps dwindling away. Not that we can expect to answer every last one of them in this life. However, as you persevere in prayerful study of His Instruction Book, the right, clear, beautifully sound, and inspiring answers will mount up higher and higher, and you&#8217;ll find the evidence overwhelming that indeed the Bible was &#8220;God-breathed&#8221; (2 Tim. 3:15-17), and be confident that your Maker didn&#8217;t contradict Himself anywhere when He set about preserving His message for you and me, and all mankind.</p>
<p>Just wait on Him, for, as the old saying goes, you ain&#8217;t seen nothin&#8217; yet!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Which did God create first, man or animals? by roveretti</title>
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		<dc:creator>roveretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My lil 2cents...there is no better lesson or case for the power of the tongue than genesis 1&amp;2: am yet to see a better source for this (in terms of chronology,source and context).

 God created man physically before the animals but he &#039;called forth&#039; the animals first. God was in some shape or form trying to physically replicate the kingdom of heaven and the order of things. In heaven God has authority over all things, God wanted the same for us. Our mandate from him is to subdue the earth (subdue means to dominate with the consent/power/permission of a higher authority). that should be left for another...I digress.
Out of nothing God called the earth and our heaven(sky) into being. In earth was water, He created the firmament to divide the waters of the earth (seas) and the waters of the heavens(sky:rain/snow). Notice he also made the 2 lights (sun and moon), that,s where physical creation stopped. HE then started to call things &#039;forth&#039; from their &#039;kind&#039; (in here lies the magic of thought/command&#039;...he was calling the from the supernatural into the natural...however they were not yet manifest unlike the earth, waters, sky, sun and moon. He now jumped to man and created him from dust and breathe in him. After this the work of manifesting these things began...it was at this point man named all things. This was my first real time gift from the HOLY GHOST. Read genesis millions of times and never saw this until I prayed for guidance and I trust this is the real order of things.God bless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My lil 2cents&#8230;there is no better lesson or case for the power of the tongue than genesis 1&amp;2: am yet to see a better source for this (in terms of chronology,source and context).</p>
<p> God created man physically before the animals but he &#8216;called forth&#8217; the animals first. God was in some shape or form trying to physically replicate the kingdom of heaven and the order of things. In heaven God has authority over all things, God wanted the same for us. Our mandate from him is to subdue the earth (subdue means to dominate with the consent/power/permission of a higher authority). that should be left for another&#8230;I digress.<br />
Out of nothing God called the earth and our heaven(sky) into being. In earth was water, He created the firmament to divide the waters of the earth (seas) and the waters of the heavens(sky:rain/snow). Notice he also made the 2 lights (sun and moon), that,s where physical creation stopped. HE then started to call things &#8216;forth&#8217; from their &#8216;kind&#8217; (in here lies the magic of thought/command&#8217;&#8230;he was calling the from the supernatural into the natural&#8230;however they were not yet manifest unlike the earth, waters, sky, sun and moon. He now jumped to man and created him from dust and breathe in him. After this the work of manifesting these things began&#8230;it was at this point man named all things. This was my first real time gift from the HOLY GHOST. Read genesis millions of times and never saw this until I prayed for guidance and I trust this is the real order of things.God bless.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How old was Abraham when he left Haran? by Higgins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Higgins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 06:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terah&#039;s geneology is just like Noah&#039;s. Each came from a pure line of first-borns (a theme fulfilled in Mary&#039;s and God&#039;s firstborn). Each list multiple descendants after a certain age (for Noah, Terah). The blessed child (Shem, Abraham) is not first born, but blessed due to  divine intervention (as is also the case with Jacob, and Ephraim). Far from being an error, it is God&#039;s way of getting us to pay attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terah&#8217;s geneology is just like Noah&#8217;s. Each came from a pure line of first-borns (a theme fulfilled in Mary&#8217;s and God&#8217;s firstborn). Each list multiple descendants after a certain age (for Noah, Terah). The blessed child (Shem, Abraham) is not first born, but blessed due to  divine intervention (as is also the case with Jacob, and Ephraim). Far from being an error, it is God&#8217;s way of getting us to pay attention.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When would Adam die if he ate the forbidden fruit? by Higgins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Higgins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 06:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An alternative is that biologically death took a while to kick in, in the way that God&#039;s setting the max age at 120 (Gen.6:3) took a while to kick in as demonstrated in the genealogy of Gen.11:10-24. However the ages in Genesis 5 do look stable.I&#039;m still going with the traditional view of death in the spiritual sense as in Ephesians 2:1 (compare Revelation 20 which distinguishes first versus second death).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An alternative is that biologically death took a while to kick in, in the way that God&#8217;s setting the max age at 120 (Gen.6:3) took a while to kick in as demonstrated in the genealogy of Gen.11:10-24. However the ages in Genesis 5 do look stable.I&#8217;m still going with the traditional view of death in the spiritual sense as in Ephesians 2:1 (compare Revelation 20 which distinguishes first versus second death).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who spoke to Moses from the burning bush? by Higgins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Higgins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This not a problem within the New Testament. In the Old Testament, with the angel of the Lord meetings and dialogues, the angel of the Lord speaks such that He alternates between speaking as the angel of the Lord (the Lord referred to as a third party)and the Lord Himself. In 1 Samuel 13 the angel of the Lord seems to be a man, is identified as the angel of the Lord sent by God, then identified as God, the Lord. A multi-personed God (see &quot;us&quot;&quot; in Genesis 1:26)? In 1 Sam.30 we find two other mysteries: firstly how can men see the Lord and not die? No answer given. Secondly what is the Lord&#039;s name? It is too wonderful.The questions raised here are answered only with in the full revelation of God in the NT as the Triune, incarnate, loving, humble and crucified God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This not a problem within the New Testament. In the Old Testament, with the angel of the Lord meetings and dialogues, the angel of the Lord speaks such that He alternates between speaking as the angel of the Lord (the Lord referred to as a third party)and the Lord Himself. In 1 Samuel 13 the angel of the Lord seems to be a man, is identified as the angel of the Lord sent by God, then identified as God, the Lord. A multi-personed God (see &#8220;us&#8221;" in Genesis 1:26)? In 1 Sam.30 we find two other mysteries: firstly how can men see the Lord and not die? No answer given. Secondly what is the Lord&#8217;s name? It is too wonderful.The questions raised here are answered only with in the full revelation of God in the NT as the Triune, incarnate, loving, humble and crucified God.</p>
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